Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: "American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules"

["Ivan ." <ivanhec@xxxxxxxxx>]

15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America
http://www.businessinsider.com/facts-about-inequality-in-america-2011-11?op=1

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  On 10/14/2011 8:21 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>
> You think I'm biting that?
>
>  Skinny and "under-age"  is just about everything you could come up with.
> Congrats for creativity.
>
>  Just because two of you decided you found common grounds for insult
> doesn't mean you're god-almighty-indisputably-right in every piece of shit
> you come up with. Did I mention it's shit?
>
>  With that, I give you one, you have a point, I should have stopped
> responding ever since some guy decided to equate a couple dozen of people
> into America's 1%.
>
>  Strange, thought security guys would have been better with numbers...
>
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> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Laurelai <laurelai@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>   On 10/14/2011 6:32 PM, xD 0x41 wrote:
>>
>> Cristiano , per favor' mi dai dieci minuti scusa mi ma, e' essentiale ..
>> You really dont realise how much, you attack others when they post,
>> NOMATTER what the topic... yet you are still wondering why somany people
>> seem to despise your skinny little nerdy ass... well, nerdy isnt bad, but,
>> your a downright lookalike for mr.Bean aka rowan atkinson. You could maybe
>> do his stunts, to ?
>> Your the one who is usually abusing others, before the finality wich is
>> simply adults not reesponding, to the baby whos crying out for more
>> aarguements.
>> You should stfu, and learn more, you assume to know all, in every post,
>> your the brain, yet you are lame, i looked everything up abiout you, and
>> yes, go ahead, and setup a nice wordpress secure setting, php wise to,  then
>> yes, id maybe hink your atleast a halfwit ;)
>> Anyhow, your basically a tr0ll, and, you seem to keep goading, even AFTER
>> the others, have completely stopped responding to you, simply because,
>> Laurelai was right, why would anyone want to keep up a thread wich has now
>> turned malign, as i forsaw a week ago, but, i did not think it would even
>> make a week, People like you, keep inspiring the flame to burn brighter..
>> wich to me, is nastier than any *abuse* names, wich, you clearly have not
>> counted howmany times you have actually called others, some form of rude
>> name/word/personal attack.
>> Maybe when you GROW UP, and behave as an adult, then I would assume the
>> list will start to hear you, even through the bs.
>> Anyhow, i applaud you, for *coming out* as to say, I mean, putting your
>> pic up, like that, mate, you could be a pornstar! what you doin online
>> :P~~~bahahaha
>> go back to grade.2 then repeate it, then move on... then, if you work out
>> how to call 911, call someone who gives a shit.
>> Idiotic kid, grow the hell up.
>> xd--
>>
>> // IND SEC CONSILTANT FOR Yep yep Security (simply coz it sounds good) YEP
>> YEP for all your Hat attire needs!
>>
>> On 15 October 2011 08:57, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, let's just all ignore low insults. The world would be a much better
>>> place without them and whoever said them in the first place...
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>>   On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Resorting to personal attacks? Nice.
>>>>
>>>>  Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a
>>>> website? Growing pot?
>>>>
>>>>  I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell whoever
>>>> is responsible to do a fix.
>>>> I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys.
>>>> Also note that I never said I'm a seasoned hacker... in fact, my
>>>> occupation is quite on the opposite side of the spectrum...
>>>>
>>>>  You also seem to know more than I do what the Ubuntu VM I have
>>>> contains.
>>>>
>>>>  But that must make all the difference! I mean, people that don't know
>>>> qubits from bits shouldn't be allowed in such discussions
>>>> (of course there's wikipedia...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Georgi Guninski <guninski@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Christian Sciberras,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I have seen is bad
>>>>> smalltalk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any technical publications you can share so I can judge?
>>>>>
>>>>> btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce a bug in a CMS and
>>>>> in addition you can't tell root from user password on vanilla ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> joro
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>>> > > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit.
>>>>> Making
>>>>> > profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go
>>>>> somewhere
>>>>> > further in the chain.
>>>>> > Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that
>>>>> refused
>>>>> > to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as
>>>>> > productive.
>>>>> > Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they
>>>>> > decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have
>>>>> a
>>>>> > right in the first place...).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of
>>>>> responsibility
>>>>> > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the
>>>>> largest
>>>>> > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you a
>>>>> bottle
>>>>> > of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of
>>>>> it,
>>>>> > most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subway
>>>>> would
>>>>> > thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things
>>>>> off you.
>>>>> > Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases,
>>>>> other than
>>>>> > myself.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little more
>>>>> effort.
>>>>> > For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they did
>>>>> legally
>>>>> > wrong.
>>>>> > Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The
>>>>> "99%
>>>>> > protest" is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right
>>>>> wrongs by
>>>>> > pointing at jailed people.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >  On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I simply acknowledge the fact that some people work hard to get
>>>>> "obscenely
>>>>> > > rich", but I just can't stand people that cause damage for the fun
>>>>> of it.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >  So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >  Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his business, instead of
>>>>> ruining
>>>>> > > others' for the fun of it.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >  What bothers me is the fact that those hypocrites (protesters) are
>>>>> crying
>>>>> > > out loud against some people they're highly envious of with the
>>>>> excuse of
>>>>> > > "the depression".
>>>>> > > Well, here's the news; the famous depression has been brought about
>>>>> by
>>>>> > > these same people!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of
>>>>> responsibility
>>>>> > > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the
>>>>> largest
>>>>> > > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >  If someone above is collecting free money because of incentives
>>>>> for
>>>>> > > people to spend money (and which seem to work well), I can't blame
>>>>> him.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >  Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >  How many times in your life have you paid back something you
>>>>> received by
>>>>> > > mistake and which wasn't yours?
>>>>> > > While I would foremost applaud anyone that would right such a
>>>>> wrong, I just
>>>>> > > can't ignore the fact that those people out there representing the
>>>>> "99%" are
>>>>> > > big-time hypocrites.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of
>>>>> it,
>>>>> > > most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >  On a different argument, since you seem to know well enough how
>>>>> some of
>>>>> > > the 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you start by handing out
>>>>> names
>>>>> > > instead of talking air just as the "99%" crowd has been doing up
>>>>> till now?
>>>>> > >
>>>>>  > > *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006
>>>>> > > **Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England
>>>>> > > **Bill Clinton, former US president*
>>>>> > > *Gordon Brown, prime minister*
>>>>> > > *George W Bush, former US president*
>>>>> > > *Senator Phil Gramm
>>>>> > > **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist
>>>>> > > **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's
>>>>> > > **"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group
>>>>> > > **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss
>>>>> > > **Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss
>>>>> > > **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss
>>>>> > > **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive
>>>>> > > **Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin
>>>>> > > **Lewis Ranieri
>>>>> > > **Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products
>>>>> > > **Chuck Prince, former Citi boss
>>>>> > > **Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial
>>>>> > > **Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch*
>>>>> > > *Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss
>>>>> > > **Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking committee (Democrat)
>>>>> > > **Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister
>>>>> > > **John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07*
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Oh yeah and lets not forget about this guy
>>>>> > >
>>>>> http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877337,00.html
>>>>> > > And while he is thankfully spending time in a prison cell, so many
>>>>> other
>>>>> > > names on this list go free, in fact a good chunk of them made a
>>>>> profit off
>>>>> > > of the disaster.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>  Lets keep the discussion above the belt guys ok?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>   Whats wrong with being skinny? *ducks*
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>  I was actually talking to Xd as im rather skinny myself :s
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