Re: [Full-disclosure] VPN providers and any providers in general...

[xD 0x41 <secn3t@xxxxxxxxx>]

Really, at this stage yes, your right, at this moment with the legal ways as
they are, then for sure it is as you say..

this can be said another way: don't be stupid :)

This seems to be a general consensus I see.. I guess this is fd..cheers.
xd


On 5 October 2011 16:26, coderman <coderman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:04 PM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > ...
> > This is where, as i was saying... a shell owner/employee, could easily
> make
> > any police run in circles simply trying to get a decent tap on
> something...
>
> yeah, then they just take whole provider, e.g.:
>
> "On Sept. 22nd, Microsoft filed for an ex parte temporary restraining
> order from the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of
> Virginia against Dominique Alexander Piatti, dotFREE Group SRO and
> John Does 1-22. The court granted our request, allowing us to sever
> the known connections between the Kelihos botnet and the individual
> “zombie computers” under its control. Immediately following the
> takedown on Sept. 26th, we served Dominique Alexander Piatti, who was
> living and operating his business in the Czech Republic, and dotFREE
> Group SRO, with notice of the lawsuit and began discussions with Mr.
> Piatti to determine which of his subdomains were being used for
> legitimate business, "
>
>
> short of it is basic =
>  be a discerning customer.
> - vpn providers that don't log are better than logging for any period
> no matter how short.
> - vpn providers that are technically competent are better than those
> which will expose you through leaks or when cracked.
> - vpn providers resistant to jurisdictional and payment processor
> pressure are better than those using easily coerced services, third
> parties, or vendors.
> - no vpn provider is resistant to you being an ass. if you raise big
> heat directly and exclusively on a VPN provider you are both stupid
> and subject to them cutting your service if not dumping your logs.
> this can be said another way: don't be stupid :)
>
>
> the incompetent and twofaced should be exposed however. i hear
> attrition.org likes to keep lists and name names ...
>

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