:0: * ^Subject:.*Getting Off the Patch.* /dev/null On 01/17/11 11:18, Pete Herzog wrote: >> Fortunately this isn't the type of list where people would challenge your >> "large company" > > Thanks, good to know. And I was 18 when I did the sting operations. > You misread (again). > >> >> Now, what I did there was insulting, confrontational, and a general shitty >> thing to do. > > Expected. Nothing that I wouldn't put past you. > >> >> But with this approach, you are asking us to do the exact same thing when we > > This is a very limited point of view and you are inferring this. > >> You cannot use the "if you don't like my driving then stay off the sidewalk" >> defense > > Wow, you're still inferring a whole bunch of things there and even > saying things I didn't say. You are so taking this all out of context. > > >> I chose that example specifically because it represented an unpatched >> environment > > Sorry you were dissatisfied with the examples. I'll try harder for you > next time. > >> I didn't find it a challenge to read at all; it was quite easy. > > Criticism noted. > >> >> Your stating that "you think that op-controls can't protect where patches > > Of course your argument is your opinion. One that can be surely backed > by many stats from many companies making money off that particular > model. And those stats also show it doesn't work consistently. Why not > try something different? I am presenting a different model is all. > Sorry you don't like it. It works for others that have tried. > >> >> I have clearly stated that these controls should already be in place, and > > I disagree. I think it's a shame that someone who has occasionally > decent things to say can be so brainwashed to suggest patching must be > done. Good luck with that. > >> I'm glad I have operated with the parameters of your expectation. > > I'm happy now that you're glad :) > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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