jf wrote: > Well either you're full of it, they're full of it, or you just plainly > misunderstood. In every place I've ever seen TS data getting transmitted, > they're not using any cipher you've ever heard of, both ends of the > connection use something like a kg-175 (now known as a taclane, you're lie > would've been better if you had found out about these in your time spent > using google), which uses NSA encryption and because of the crypto-module, > is classified. Oh right every single department in the government and agency has one along with with kiv-19's because after all everyone connects back to DREN. Right I forgot its all over TRADOC manuals. How stupid can I be to not know this (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://venona.antioffline.com) my bad. > Now what's possible (assuming this isnt the figment of your imagination), > is that they were transmitting data rated at secret, which IIRC can use > AES 128, depending on the implementation. > > So like I said, you're either making it up, misunderstood them, or they > were having fun with you. No they were deathly serious about using EV-DO to transmit Top Secret documents over the wire and wanted to know it was sniffable period. > So what, you think because you found some documents on google that this is > how the data is getting lost and this all somehow makes you authoritive? > Here is the simple truth, as is the usual with many of you > ex-feed-the-goats/etc kids, you just don't know wtf you're talking about. Documents on Google? One in the government shouldn't be worried about documents on Google they should be worried about idiots behind some of those government machines which leave information not intended for the public on them. [1] I recall back in the mid to late 90's mirrors of dozens maybe hundreds of military, NASA sites left and right getting pwnd daily, hourly. Why these machines were up and on the Internet is anyone's guess from the public side. As to why someone would compromise them, the answer should be obvious to anyone with half a clue. It's alright to vent your frustration but I'm not the idiot putting up machines on the Internet when they shouldn't be there. I'm not the one who's allowing idiots to post classified information over non secure channels when they should know better. Facts are facts. Don't shoot the messenger: // begin [1] Numerous US military documents, some of which have critical strategic importance, have been found on publicly accessible ftp servers. ... Some of the most sensitive information found by AP included details of security vulnerabilities at a contingency operating base, security features at Tallil Air Base and plans of a military fuelling facility. Some files were apparently password protected, but in one case the password was given in another document on the same server. When asked for his views, Bruce Schneier called the leaks "a sloppy user mistake" - an understatement of monumental proportions ... http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/92653 // end "Some files were apparently password protected, but in one case the password was given in another document on the same server." What's that you were saying about stupidity? -- ==================================================== J. Oquendo "Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta" http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF684C42E sil . infiltrated @ net http://www.infiltrated.net
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