Re: [Full-disclosure] Shell accounts

[poo <skodliv@xxxxxxxxx>]

where i live the wireless networks roam wild, there's no public surveillance
and the FBI have zero jurisdiction

On 4/12/06, Ron DuFresne <dufresne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:48:41 BST, Ian stuart Turnbull said:
> > > Ha Ha. Yes, not a proper fiend hey. But I take it that I would be
> anonymous
> > > technically.
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > Hint - if you send a packet *out* from the shell account, it's probably
> as a
> > result of another packet going *in* to the shell account.
> >
> > Even the stupidest of cops can figure out that "wow - every time a
> packet
> > heads out from here to the Pentagon, a split second before, a similar
> packet
> > came in from some bozo on a cablemodem in Idaho.  Maybe the Idaho guys
> need
> > to pay this guy a visit"....
> >
> > Yes, you can obfuscate it with setting cron jobs and tunnelling data via
> covert
> > channels and other neat tricks, but the basic point remains - if you
> connect
> > *to* the shell, you're no longer anonymous, and if you don't connect to
> the
> > shell, you can't use the shell....
> >
> >
>
> Another issue to consider is that a mere user level shell likely lacks
> privs to do some of the nasties referenced in some of these posts.  thus,
> the friend would not oonly have to allow shell access, but also give away
> root on the server as well.
>
> Just a minor point.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron DuFresne
> --
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> get'em
> 'cause she comes back." --B.B. King
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>
> OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.
>
>
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