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Re: [Full-disclosure] BANTOWN PRESENTS: Give me 0day or give me death
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- Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] BANTOWN PRESENTS: Give me 0day or give me death
- From: James Longstreet <jlongs2@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:41:50 -0600
Bantown is like FYAD if FYAD wasn't funny
On Dec 17, 2005, at 11:26 PM, Andrew A wrote:
Because of my philosophical leanings, I have made the assumption
that freedom of speech and expression is an inalienable right
granted by nature's God. I have made the extension to this
statement that the freedom to write code and execute your code is
an extension to free speech. Fascists that may disagree with my
statements may go ahead and skip this post.
Now, let us say you have a machine connected to the Internet. It is
impossible, by this computer's very nature, for it to do anything
that is was not programmed to do. It takes in the data that it is
given, processes it according to deterministic rules, and returns
output that it could not possibly have deviated from. This process
may be so complex that it appears to be stochastic, but it is
nonetheless deterministic and we should not pretend it is anything
but. This deterministic sequencing extends far beyond just your
computer. If every element in a system is deterministic, then the
whole system itself is deterministic. The entire Internet is a
single, uninterrupted deterministic state machine.
I present to you the Eleatic school of hacker ethics.
The Internet is public property. No establishment has a right to
own it, subvert it, subject it, or rule over it. It extends beyond
race, nationality, religion, or geopolitical agreement. Now that we
understand that the Internet is a single deterministic machine, we
may approach this situation with logic and reason as opposed to
knee-jerk reactionary idiocy. When connected to the Internet, your
computer becomes a part of this deterministic machine. It is
impossible for your computer to execute any code which it has not
been programmed to execute. If your computer has been programmed to
accept my arbitrary code, then there is no moral or ethical
violation committed when I introduce my code to yours.
If you download and execute my code, you have done so willingly.
If your daemon executes my code after I introduce it in a manner
that is innovative and unique, then your daemon has done exactly
what it has been programmed to do.
You don't want me to execute my code inside your code? Then keep
your machine out of OUR deterministic state machine. Keep it on
your own private network, so that someone will have to commit a
real honest-to-God crime like breaking and entering to have access
to it. The minute you connect it to a public network, it becomes
connected to all of us through the 0 and 1.
Whitehats will try to play games and act like they're the good
guys. They will tell you that people who commit "computer crimes"
are organized crime types who are out to empty your grandma's bank
account. Their arguments are bullshit. No doubt that emptying
someone's bank account is a serious crime, but we have real laws to
punish this. The laws that we have made to punish "information
crimes" are merely laws against thoughtcrime. It is impossible to
commit crimes that extend solely in the wired.
Take a look at what your governments are doing. The majority of
whitehats are employed in the US, where they have a leader that
willingly and openly defies the fourth amendment of their
constitution. They have a corporate oligarchy where a select few
families get to control ninety-nine percent of the public funds and
purposefully impoverish the working and intellectual classes.
Things are only marginally brighter in the rest of the first world.
This is your idea of a utopia, the system that you want to
perpetuate indefinitely? Do you really want the tyrants in this new
Rome to reign a thousand years like the last one did? I sure don't,
so stop preaching to me a bunch of bullshit about rule of law.
Wake up.
Stop working for these oligarchs that despise you. Band together,
because at this point all that keeps the oligarchs in power is
control over the ones and zeros. We have a power to change them for
the better, a chance to make a lasting contribution to humanity.
You can be a hero in the manner of Plato, of Socrates, of Pappus,
Pascal, Parmenides and Zeno. You can change the world. All you need
is to cast off the shackles that your masters have put on you!
Be fearless.
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