Re: [Full-Disclosure] MSIE src&name property disclosure

[Dave Aitel <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Joe,

http://www.immunitysec.com/services-sharing.shtml has the answers to 
your questions about the Immunity VSC, but my point was specifically 
about bugs that Microsoft knew about, but didn't think the public did. 
In Linux's case, said bugs would have a detailed advisory. In 
Microsoft's case, such bugs are wrapped into the next service pack silently.

Private firms such as Immunity and several others in the market often 
close the gaps, but it's likely that hackers have had such bugs for long 
periods of time.

Dave Aitel
Immunity, Inc.




joe wrote:

> I don't know how your club works. 
>
> Do you report to MS as well or just within your club that you charge people
> to be part of? Has MS responded to you if you did report it? What was their
> response that makes WINS a classic example?
>
>  joe 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Aitel [mailto:dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 3:38 PM
> To: joe
> Cc: 'Michal Zalewski'; 'Berend-Jan Wever'; full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> bugtraq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] MSIE src&name property disclosure
>
> That's a good question for your Microsoft sales rep. If you want technical
> details, Immunity has a working and reliable Wins exploit in the
> Vulnerability Sharing Club version of CANVAS. I think there's an interesting
> difference between how the Linux community handled the recent kernel bugs,
> and how Microsoft and other commercial vendors handle all bugs.
>
> Dave Aitel
> Immunity, Inc.
>
> joe wrote:
>
>  
>
> > How is it an example?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: full-disclosure-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Aitel
> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:49 AM
> > To: Michal Zalewski
> > Cc: Berend-Jan Wever; full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
> > bugtraq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] MSIE src&name property disclosure
> >
> > <SNIP>
> > WINS is a classic example.
> > <SNIP>
> >
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