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Re: [Full-Disclosure] leaking



>> Each visitor is given a different email address.  It's made up of their
>> IP address, the Unix time and a partial hash value, encrypted with a
>> private Serpent-256 key.

>>> Dave Horsfall <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 13/05/2004 03:50:14 >>>
> Yep, and that way you can see who sold it to whom.

Absolutely.  For instance, the last mail to appear in the box had a recipient 
address decoding to:

IP that picked up the address: 216.185.57.146
Picked up at: Sun Nov 30 03:53:42 2003 UTC
Picked up on the 22385th hit to the site (since email addresses were generated 
this way) from the front page.

And from the spam, we can determine they sold/gave this address to someone who 
then spammed, or perhaps they themselves spammed, from 61.3.216.165 at Thu, 13 
May 2004 10:34:18 +0100 (BST) using a mail server which for about 3 months 
hasn't been listed as an MX for the domain (but still accepts mail all the 
same), spamming on behalf of someone offering university certificates ("Call to 
register and get yours in days - 1 203 286 2403.").

Perhaps one "attack" against such long-lived MX entries in the spammers' 
databases would be to walk a couple of MXs across IP space, changing the DNS MX 
entries as you go.  At least one spambot use a technique such as this: 
http://www.securityfocus.com/guest/24043  Not a lot of good when we run out of 
IP address space.  But maybe by then the spammers' database will have been 
updated anyway (hopefully to a now old or soon-to-expire MX!).

Not having access to my full mail archive, I can't let you know whether the 
aforementioned address has been hit before.  I'll do a trawl through the 
addresses compromised so far, but I don't think there will be any revelatory 
findings.  I think the main thing that would surprise me is if spammers are 
using the Google cache to hide from traps like this.  There's probably no need: 
botnets will pin the blame elsewhere.

Marek


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