Am 13.08.2013 00:42, schrieb Brandon M. Graves: > I hate to come late to the party, but following all of this, it is kind of > ridiculous. > > I have to agree with those before in saying software should ship secure. > in my environment whenever we are given a new bit to add to our > infrastructure, be it a new server, new version of an OS, or new version > of a software, either A) it comes to us from those at our distribution > point pre templated to be unusable due to security, or B) we first make > it unusable by configuring every possible security setting to be as tight > as possible... nobody said anything else but "Apache suEXEC privilege elevation" is *not* a suEXEC problem and that's the whole point - people in this thread mixing a lot of different things partly with no clue Am 13.08.2013 01:45, schrieb coderaptor: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> unlink('file_my_script_wrote'); is fine >>>> unlink($_GET['what_ever_input']): is a security hole >>>> >>>> so do we now disable unlink(); >>> >>> Why not? >> >> because it is plain stupid > > You think so. Not everyone shares your opinion. you know the quote from "Dirty Harry" about opinions? >> you even statet that you did not realize that others are talking >> about PHP and you not knew the context of 'disable_functions' >> and so stop trying to be a smartass in topics you are clueless > > Please no personal insults truth != insult >>> Go ahead and disable all 1330 functions if the need be, and let the >>> Administrator figure out which ones he should carefully enable >> >> please stop making yourself *that* laughable > > I don't care. i see >>> Just for the sake of argument? Which sane framework provides 1330 >>> functions? Security is surely not black and white, but this argument >>> should not justify poor design choices. Anyways, no matter what one >>> does, using a framework with 1330 functions is poor security decision >> >> please be quite and come back after you understood the difference >> between a programming language and a framework >> >> hint: >> >> * PHP: programming language >> * Ruby: programming language >> >> * Zend Framework, Symfony: Framework >> * Ruboy On Rails: Framework >> > > Does it matter if I call at a framework, programming language, or > dancing donkey? It doesn't change the reality yes, if you talk on a professional level you need to know the basics if you like to be taken serious
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