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Re: [FD] AV scan on read vs write debate....
- To: Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "fulldisclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <fulldisclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [FD] AV scan on read vs write debate....
- From: Victor Aguilar <Victor.Aguilar@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:40:17 +0000
Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Am 01.07.2014 20:26, schrieb Joe Brown:
> A compromise might be to have scan on Write only, with a forced full system
> scan of all files at a certain time.
> For example at lunch time.
bad idea
> 1. You don't have an all the time performance hit
if i scan my full system it takes 8 hours
> 2. Files will be checked on a daily/weekly basis
daily is not doable -> see above
weekly is not enough
typically AV signatures are a few hours behind new malware, so it
helps at least if you download something now and don't open the
payload directly after download, maybe in a ZIP only specific
files are affected
the same applies for ZIP's you got from a person you know
which has a infected machine per email, while receive the
mail your signatures maybe not recent enough, in the time
between receive and open files you may get updates
> Negatives are that these files may sit on the device while waiting for the
> next scheduled scan.
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Yoann Gini <yoann.gini@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:yoann.gini@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>
> Le 30 juin 2014 à 01:48, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>
> > but if you are talk with Apple "the OS is secure" priests
> > forget it, they are learning resistent
>
> This is not true anymore. Any Apple representative wont tell you that
> nowadays. Even more, Apple has a small
> antivirus builtin in the system. But signatures based, focused on major
> OS X threats. No heuristics, no
> detection of windows malwares.
>
> Le 30 juin 2014 à 01:38, Exibar <exibar@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:exibar@xxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>
> > they claim they have a huge performance
> > improvement with scan on read turned off...
>
>
> This is also true. Sadly. I work only on Apple products (and I use
> antivirus), I never seen a good product who
> don’t slow down the computer as shit.
>
> From a sys admin perspective, Antivirus editors don’t take the Mac
> seriously, their product are slow and
> sometime published with too much bug inside. That don’t help Mac users to
> have any trust in it…
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