[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [Full-disclosure] Where are you guys standing re: the (full) disclosure



Answers:
1. Whether you are right and there is a bug, lrt the vendor (M$) know; that is 
ethical. They will decide if to consider your finding as a bug. Your following 
steps depend on their opinion on the finding.
2. If you keep it for yourself - no problems. If you disclose on Internet 
before informing M$, there is certain risk, but first of all it is not ethical. 
If you sell it as an exploit, and it will be widely used as 0-day, then it 
might be a hunt for your head with some bounty (you are not relly breaking a 
law as I wrote below, but angry government may find something suitable for you) 
. So, you need to consider risks and how to hide your identity. If you found 
bug not breaking MS code and not accessing to a computer illegally, you do not 
break any formal law. Breaking MS code may be considered as a violation of 
their property rights, but MS guys should be really angry to pursue such case.
As you describe, you did not do anything illegal and releasing the finding is 
up to you, again - ethics.
3. Will make you a star, but not shining brings more risks.

Shortly - inform M$ first and wait what they said. If they do not agree - you 
are free to go.

-----Original Message-----
From: Full-Disclosure [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of full-disclosure-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:00 AM
To: full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 106, Issue 12




----------------------------------------------------------------------

Humans, Dwarves, Elves, Fairies and all free folk on this list:

Meli Kalikimaka.

I think I found a relatively small bug with Windows Server running DNS with 
recursion turned off, that still allows the server to be used for DDOS 
amplification attacks. There are a sizable number of these on the net, and I do 
not think operators realize that the server is not totally silent with 
recursion turned off. 
I want to put my findings here on the list, as well as on my blog but I am 
unsure if :

1. should I tell MS first?
2. being this is possibly my first bug as a researcher, will this get me into 
trouble (legal or otherwise)?
3. will this make me a rock star?

I have details on the bug, as well as remediation steps. I would not say I 
"discovered" it per se, as I found it while studying an attack on a network I 
protect, but I do not see it documented anywhere either.

What say you, Wise List Readers?
                                          
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20131212/146ff9e6/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/

------------------------------

End of Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 106, Issue 12
************************************************
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication and any attachments may 
contain confidential 
and privileged information for the use of the designated recipients named 
above. If you are 
not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this 
communication 
in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or 
copying of it or its 
contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, 
please reply to the 
sender immediately or by telephone at (617) 426-0600 and destroy all copies of 
this communication 
and any attachments. For further information regarding Commonwealth Care 
Alliance's privacy policy, 
please visit our Internet web site at http://www.commonwealthcare.org.


_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/