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Re: [Full-disclosure] Where are you guys standing re: the (full) disclosure
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- Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Where are you guys standing re: the (full) disclosure
- From: "Mikhail A. Utin" <mutin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:06:48 -0500
Answers:
1. Whether you are right and there is a bug, lrt the vendor (M$) know; that is
ethical. They will decide if to consider your finding as a bug. Your following
steps depend on their opinion on the finding.
2. If you keep it for yourself - no problems. If you disclose on Internet
before informing M$, there is certain risk, but first of all it is not ethical.
If you sell it as an exploit, and it will be widely used as 0-day, then it
might be a hunt for your head with some bounty (you are not relly breaking a
law as I wrote below, but angry government may find something suitable for you)
. So, you need to consider risks and how to hide your identity. If you found
bug not breaking MS code and not accessing to a computer illegally, you do not
break any formal law. Breaking MS code may be considered as a violation of
their property rights, but MS guys should be really angry to pursue such case.
As you describe, you did not do anything illegal and releasing the finding is
up to you, again - ethics.
3. Will make you a star, but not shining brings more risks.
Shortly - inform M$ first and wait what they said. If they do not agree - you
are free to go.
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Humans, Dwarves, Elves, Fairies and all free folk on this list:
Meli Kalikimaka.
I think I found a relatively small bug with Windows Server running DNS with
recursion turned off, that still allows the server to be used for DDOS
amplification attacks. There are a sizable number of these on the net, and I do
not think operators realize that the server is not totally silent with
recursion turned off.
I want to put my findings here on the list, as well as on my blog but I am
unsure if :
1. should I tell MS first?
2. being this is possibly my first bug as a researcher, will this get me into
trouble (legal or otherwise)?
3. will this make me a rock star?
I have details on the bug, as well as remediation steps. I would not say I
"discovered" it per se, as I found it while studying an attack on a network I
protect, but I do not see it documented anywhere either.
What say you, Wise List Readers?
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