Re: [Full-disclosure] XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do online

[Gary Baribault <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Don't forget that they also have to back haul that data to their data
centres !! They would have to have secret agreements with all of the
Tier 1 carriers. Sure sounds far fetched!

Gary B


On 08/01/2013 03:51 PM, XF wrote:
> Right. But where are their tap ? In Internet Exchange Point ? In AS ?
> And how can they do that ? "Hello, I'm NSA, can I get a TAP on your
> network" :-)  This would say that ISP agree and the amount of data to
> transfer would be so vast . How can they transfer all this amount of
> data into their system ??
>
>
> Le 1 août 2013 à 20:56, Gary Baribault <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>
>> Optically tapping ALL of the submarine cable going into and out of
>> the U.S. would still not give them ALL of the claimed data. They have
>> to be tapping all of the major traffic exchange sites in the U.S. to
>> get this kind of data.
>>
>> Gary B
>>
>>  On 08/01/2013 11:31 AM, XF wrote:
>> > Did you understood how they collect data ? This is not clear for me...ISP 
>> > backdoor ?
>> Optical tap on sub marine wire ?
>> >
>> > Le 1 août 2013 à 16:26, Georgi Guninski <guninski@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a
>> écrit :
>> >
>> >> it will be interesting to me what will remain of the nsa
>> >> when the chinese comrades stop giving fresh money to the usa.
>> >>
>> >> Detroit news are not very pink.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:20:27PM +1200, Hugh Davenport wrote:
>> >>> meanwhile, in new zealand, prime minister suggests that we aren't
>> >>> the slaves for nsa...
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2013-08-01 19:23, Georgi Guninski wrote:
>> >>>> XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do online
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/31/prism_put_in_the_shade_by_leak_about_even_more_powerful_snoop_tool/
>> >>>> New NSA tool exposed: XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do
>> online'
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From the presentation:
>> >>>> * Show me all the exploitable machines in country X
>> >>>>
>> >>>> * How do I find a cell of terrorust that has no
>> >>>> connection to known strong-selectors
>> >>>> **Anomalous events
>> >>>> ***Someone who is using encryption
>> >>>>
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