Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of freedom

[Michael Schmidt <mschmidt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You want to be very careful with that line of thought. You are taking the 
creator the rightful owners profits, which they are entitled to if it is a 
product they created to be sold. You are confusing what you want - with what 
the law states. Theft is typically very widely defined in the law, not just 
what the dictionary states.

When you make a copy, you are performing a step that the manufacturer takes 
with physical products. Just because copying software is easy does not mean the 
laws are so cut and dried around what is theft and what is not. If you take 
something by making yourself a copy, when the producer is the only authorized 
authority to make copies then you have committed theft.

You also cannot steal electricity, check out "Abstracting Electricity", but 
bypassing the meter is wrong in most jurisdictions.

In the US you can be arrested and charged for riding in a stolen car, even if 
you really didn't know it was stolen, known as "taking without consent" or TWOC.

In some jurisdictions you can be arrested and charged for "going equipped for 
burglary" mean you have implements of the trade on you - crowbars, lock picks 
etc. So I suppose in the US we are fortunate that having a copy of some 
previously defined hacking tools on a computer in our possession will not get 
us arrested - yet.

The more you know...


From: full-disclosure-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laurelai
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] when did piracy/theft become expression of 
freedom

On 1/27/2012 2:24 AM, Jerry dePriest wrote:
im going to the 'benz dealer in the morning to express my 1st amendment right...

The Somalians are learning the hard way that it just isnt so...

bma




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Piracy: an act of robbery or criminal violence at sea

Theft:  the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's 
permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it

Software copying: Occurs neither on the high seas and does not deprive the 
rightful owner of it.


The more you know.

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