Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

[james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

I'll second that; the isp I work at has a sizeable ubuntu customer base and 
these are customers who have made an informed decision.

Now; let's consider ubuntu's inherited security from debian such as configuring 
a 'mortal account' (admittedly can be ignored in the preseed) and then the lack 
of perms on su; must use sudo.

This is a distro that is newbie friendly but is not designed specifically for 
them.

Unfortunately, though, you make a distro with simplified tasks (printer 
installation a fantastic example) and people, especially long term linuxers- 
though I ought to be included I guess, remember back all too easily to when 
everything was an uphill struggle: "what do you mean I don't have to compile 
this as a flipping module? That's not freedom!" Being all too familiar.

Just my tuppence worth anyway.

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From: Johan Nestaas <johannestaas@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:04:46 
To: Olivier<feuille@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

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