Re: [Full-disclosure] Search and Seizure of Email

[Justin Klein Keane <justin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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I'll just leave this here:

http://www.cybercrime.gov/ssmanual/03ssma.html

Section D does list a search warrant, but also lists other mechanisms
by which the government can compel a provider to turn over e-mail.
The US government is restricted by the 4th amendment in this respect.

Justin Klein Keane
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On 10/12/2011 11:54 AM, Laurelai wrote:
> On 10/12/2011 10:33 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>> Well said!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Daniel Sichel 
>> <daniels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> In fact, law enforcement officials don?t even need a search
>> warrant to
>>> access private emails.
>> 
>> In point of fact, nobody does, although acquiring this access is 
>> clearly easier for law enforcement. One of the burdens that the
>> freedom the Internet brings, is the freedom. Your email is out
>> there, typically unencrypted, available to anyone who can snatch
>> the packets off the wire, Any ISP employee with appropriate read
>> rights on a mail server.
>> 
>> Take responsibility for your own email. Encrypt it if you must, 
>> but for heaven sakes, own the fact that it is publicly visible.
>> 
>> If we do not take responsibility for our own email and whine
>> about others reading it,  than there will HAVE to be regulations
>> by government to protect us. That's what government does.  That's
>> what it is SUPPOSED to do.  So before we invite Godzilla to
>> protect our email, how about we just man up and take
>> responsibility ourselves?
>> 
>> But that's just the idea of a bunch of dead white guys like
>> Edmund Burke, John Adams and James Madison, and what do they
>> know?
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Sichel
>> 
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> Well there is no push to make snail-mail encrypted and lets face it
> most peoples mailboxes don't have any sort of locking mechanisms
> and is available to anyone with two hands and the malicious intent
> to steal someones mail  however the US Gov needs a warrant to
> intercept your physical mail, why does it being online somehow make
> it different? Especially considering the US Postal service keeps
> threatening to shut down, and this is due to the increased
> popularity of *email*. Why this should be troubling is that they
> consider email somehow different than physical mail when it comes
> to privacy rights for no really good reason, and considering that
> one of the grievances we had with England in the time of the
> revolutionary war was the government intercepting mail for 
> arbitrary reasons. This should make every American citizen's hair
> stand on end.
> 
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