Re: [Full-disclosure] is FD moderated or not? (hint: ask n3td3v)

["McGhee, Eddie" <Eddie.McGhee@xxxxxxx>]

Don't think for a second this trolls name is even Andrew Wallace..

http://www.hw.ac.uk/research/experts/810_313139.htm

Edinburgh Uni just happens to have a researcher for computer vision and image 
analysis named the same.. He has probably done some graphic design and thought 
he had mad skills with Photoshop so could pwn the world hence the antics on 
this list, he's never actually submitted anything of decent quality.. and we 
will never get rid of the annoying crap he posts..

National Security?? He should be be concerned about his own sanity.

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From: full-disclosure-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: 10 February 2011 22:24
To: andrew.wallace
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx; full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] is FD moderated or not? (hint: ask n3td3v)

Nettie (and that isn't a term of endearment - see 
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nettie)

Please bog off. You make me ashamed to be British. Anyone with a burgeoning 
consultancy would shut the hell up about it, not bawl about it on FD.

I have to say that your trolling is first-class though. I am an FD lurker, not 
a contributor, yet you have wound me up enough to respond. For that, well done.

Now sod off. I am only a short train ride from your neck of the woods, and I 
would love to kick your ass for plaguing my inbox again.

Adios,

On 10 February 2011 16:32, andrew.wallace 
<andrew.wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:andrew.wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thankfully you are very rarely involved with public and private sector business 
talks in the UK, so the situation will probably never arise we are in the same 
board room.

Stay in America and keep away from the UK is the best thing that could ever 
happen to you, because frankly meeting you would be a complete nightmare for me 
and I would find it hard to work with you on any meaningful level.

One thing for sure is you have pissed me off with the way you speak to me via 
private email and your perceived perception of who I am, and what you think 
n3td3v is.

Maybe in the beginning it seemed like disorganised non-sense to you, but it has 
evolved and shaped over the years with me and is now a serious force to be 
reckoned with and is able to compete with other consultancy orgainsations in 
the UK, now that there are serious consultants on board from the business and 
government sector in the UK, where we work on meaningful policy reform within 
organisations, to tighten security against foreign powers, terrorist attacks 
and other matters.

To be perfectly honest, I would like to say, I think you've been reading 
mailing lists too much, a lot more goes on in industry than the stupid 
disclosure community, work actually gets done that is meaningful and satisfying 
when I come home at night.

My advice to you is, stop reading mailing lists, get on with the physical 
industry and stop basing your views of people based on back and forward horse 
play people have have had between 2004-2009.

That part of n3td3v is behind you, me and everyone, I removed the mailing list 
as a symbolic gesture to move on from that.

I'm now a professional, consulting and liaising with other consultants in the 
UK in the public and private sector through the consortium, the consultants who 
ive had dealings with in the physical domain who have decided to join through 
knowing me in a working relationship.

The organisation is nothing to do with what it might have been, n3td3v is 
rethought and matured, along with me.

You couldn't possibly say the same orgainsation I started when I was 18 is 
going to be the same orgainsation today now that I'm 30, it isn't.

I've changed, we've changed, the type of people I come into contact has changed 
through opportunities I've gained in the physical domain.

n3td3v is very much nothing to do with anything online-based, but has shifted 
into the physical domain, in that, its people I actually know who I can shake 
hands with who are members.

That is why the name was changed, the brand, its now a consortium, its nothing 
to do with online or some silly Google group mailing list.

The beginning days of n3td3v between 2004-2009 and the Google group mailing 
list was used to pushed my name out into the industry to become known, you 
should be able to work with me in a meaningful working relationship if you ever 
had to through work commitments.

Everyone else who I meet in the physical domain knows who I am, but they don't 
judge me for it, they shake my hand and move on with the problems in the 
industry that are needing solved.

They don't say, that's Andrew who used to post in the disclosure community, 
let's huff and puff about it.

They take me as I am in the physical domain, realise it was silly horse play 
from the past and move on.

I hope you are able to do the same, because your attitude just annoys me that 
you cannot have a mature and professional approach in the way you talk with me.

Andrew




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