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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Uncle Sam
- To: "Rohit Patnaik" <quanticle@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Uncle Sam
- From: "Brian Wilson" <vaifan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:17:11 -0700
<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;"><DIV>So the US
hacking scene is culled of those who get caught and the Chinese hacking scene
populates the forces with those who get caught. So we have one nation with no
skill for cyber defense and another populated by those stupid enough to get
caught. The next few years should be entertaining...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- quanticle@xxxxxxxxx wrote:<BR><BR>From: Rohit Patnaik
<quanticle@xxxxxxxxx><BR>To: Iadnah Enoch
<iadnah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc:
full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter
to Uncle Sam<BR>Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:53:56 -0500<BR><BR>Well
written. I should also add that even authoritarian countries treat their
hackers better than the US. In China, for example, if a kid is caught
hacking, he's given an offer of recruitment by the PLA. In the US, that
same kid would be hauled off to jail. Now which country do you think is
going to have a better "cyber command?"<BR><BR>-- Rohit Patnaik<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Iadnah Enoch <SPAN dir="ltr"><<A
href="mailto:iadnah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">iadnah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN>Dear Uncle Sam:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>Apparently the United States is having some issues with its <A
href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128574055"><FONT
color="#00578e">“cyber command”</FONT></A> effort. This is my way of helping
you out and contributing to your so-called “home front”. I believe the
following dissertation generally reflects the current stance of my community in
regard to your troubles. When I say community I am referring to hackers, the
modern alchemists, wizards, and artists whose fore-bearers built this great
nation of technology you now stand and rely upon.</DIV>
<DIV>You make everything we are interested in illegal. As a result we are
forced to be criminals if we want to learn the particular set of survival
traits, commonly known as hacking. Sure there are “white hats” out there who
possess the knowledge and skill to stop the types of attacks they, themselves,
can come up with. They will happily work for you and do whatever you tell them.
However, while you are sheltered within your own personal paradigmal bubble
where all the children play nicely, the real world, 2.0 perhaps, awaits you
outside. Out here in the real world you have been giving us the shaft in every
way shape and form possible to discourage others from becoming like us.</DIV>
<DIV>You didn’t want more of us. You didn’t want us to do what we know is
right. You wanted to use us as a resource or a munition. You make the things we
are interested in illegal so those of us who chose to learn any way are under
your theoretical control. We’re legally criminals so we must comply with you
and do as you like or we will go to jail.</DIV>
<DIV>Now that you have exhausted your arsenal of fear, uncertainty, and doubt,
you’ve come to realize you have some very troubling issues, the least of which
is that your aging titanic, system of information exchange is at once your
greatest strength and most needed crutch.</DIV>
<DIV>I know you like the <B>bottom line</B>, so I’ll state it here in a
language you can understand: We are pretty angry about how you have treated us
over the last few decades, especially since September 11 of 2001. You have made
our culture illegal. Now you want us to help you. You want us to conform to
your standards and ways of living, thinking, and acting so we can protect you
from the machinations of foreign minds.</DIV>
<DIV>Do you really feel that we have any obligation or incentive to do such a
thing? It benefits us in no tangible way to help you solve your mess. The more
time goes on, the less and less we actually need or have any use for you.</DIV>
<DIV>Is it so hard to approach us with the same respect and dignity you would
any other nation? After all, while we may not technically own land or have an
army, we are a force you know must be reckoned with. If you would approach us
as you do other nations when you are in need perhaps we would feel better about
exporting our natural resources: the knowledge necessary to correctly and
securely provide and maintain the infrastructure you use for… well, just about
everything.</DIV>
<DIV>I shall let this writ float along the aether, and perhaps some day, some
way, it will reach some one who can do simple math.</DIV>
<DIV>In parting, I must give you a brief history lesson; a reminder really:
This war will be no different than every other war waged with
wizards.</DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Full-Disclosure
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