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Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter to Uncle Sam



<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;"><DIV>So the US 
hacking scene is culled of those who get caught and the Chinese hacking scene 
populates the forces with those who get caught. So we have one nation with no 
skill for cyber defense and another populated by those stupid enough to get 
caught. The next few years should be entertaining...</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- quanticle@xxxxxxxxx wrote:<BR><BR>From: Rohit Patnaik 
&lt;quanticle@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>To: Iadnah Enoch 
&lt;iadnah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Cc: 
full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Open Letter 
to Uncle Sam<BR>Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:53:56 -0500<BR><BR>Well 
written.&nbsp; I should also add that even authoritarian countries treat their 
hackers better than the US.&nbsp; In China, for example, if a kid is caught 
hacking, he's given an offer of recruitment by the PLA.&nbsp; In the US, that 
same kid would be hauled off to jail.&nbsp; Now which country do you think is 
going to have a better "cyber command?"<BR><BR>-- Rohit Patnaik<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Iadnah Enoch <SPAN dir="ltr">&lt;<A 
href="mailto:iadnah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>iadnah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</SPAN> 
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN>Dear Uncle Sam:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>Apparently the United States is having some issues with its <A 
href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128574055";><FONT 
color="#00578e">“cyber command”</FONT></A> effort. This is my way of helping 
you out and contributing to your so-called “home front”. I believe the 
following dissertation generally reflects the current stance of my community in 
regard to your troubles. When I say community I am referring to hackers, the 
modern alchemists, wizards, and artists whose fore-bearers built this great 
nation of technology you now stand and rely upon.</DIV>
<DIV>You make everything we are interested in illegal. As a result we are 
forced to be criminals if we want to learn the particular set of survival 
traits, commonly known as hacking. Sure there are “white hats” out there who 
possess the knowledge and skill to stop the types of attacks they, themselves, 
can come up with. They will happily work for you and do whatever you tell them. 
However, while you are sheltered within your own personal paradigmal bubble 
where all the children play nicely, the real world, 2.0 perhaps, awaits you 
outside. Out here in the real world you have been giving us the shaft in every 
way shape and form possible to discourage others from becoming like us.</DIV>
<DIV>You didn’t want more of us. You didn’t want us to do what we know is 
right. You wanted to use us as a resource or a munition. You make the things we 
are interested in illegal so those of us who chose to learn any way are under 
your theoretical control. We’re legally criminals so we must comply with you 
and do as you like or we will go to jail.</DIV>
<DIV>Now that you have exhausted your arsenal of fear, uncertainty, and doubt, 
you’ve come to realize you have some very troubling issues, the least of which 
is that your aging titanic, system of information exchange is at once your 
greatest strength and most needed crutch.</DIV>
<DIV>I know you like the <B>bottom line</B>, so I’ll state it here in a 
language you can understand: We are pretty angry about how you have treated us 
over the last few decades, especially since September 11 of 2001. You have made 
our culture illegal. Now you want us to help you. You want us to conform to 
your standards and ways of living, thinking, and acting so we can protect you 
from the machinations of foreign minds.</DIV>
<DIV>Do you really feel that we have any obligation or incentive to do such a 
thing? It benefits us in no tangible way to help you solve your mess. The more 
time goes on, the less and less we actually need or have any use for you.</DIV>
<DIV>Is it so hard to approach us with the same respect and dignity you would 
any other nation? After all, while we may not technically own land or have an 
army, we are a force you know must be reckoned with. If you would approach us 
as you do other nations when you are in need perhaps we would feel better about 
exporting our natural resources: the knowledge necessary to correctly and 
securely provide and maintain the infrastructure you use for… well, just about 
everything.</DIV>
<DIV>I shall let this writ float along the aether, and perhaps some day, some 
way, it will reach some one who can do simple math.</DIV>
<DIV>In parting, I must give you a brief history lesson; a reminder really: 
This war will be no different than every other war waged with 
wizards.</DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Full-Disclosure
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