[Full-disclosure] Fwd: Congratulations Andrew

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By the same logic, then yes you would.  Which is why the statement “if a system 
has no password, then you have a legal right to whatever data is on it” is 
complete horse hockey.  
 
Don’t take technical advice from your lawyer, and don’t take legal advice from 
people on security lists.
 
t
 


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By that same standard.. if you leave your house unlocked.... does that give 
someone the right to enter it?

just my thoughts


Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:58:27 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Congratulations Andrew

Reminds be of Al Capone and tax evasion ;-)

Good ol' America.





On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, T Biehn <tbiehn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes.
The FBI was investigating the AT&T incident, presumably the AT&T incident was 
what the fed were serving against.
What possible valid search warrant could be executed? There was no hack, 
breach, illegal access of data, or anything else for that matter.

If you leave a system online with no password which allows you to scrape 
content you have a legal right to scrape that content.

-Travis

 

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:09:22 EDT, T Biehn said:

> I doubt the search warrant will hold up in court.

Do you have any actual basis for saying that?  Sure, the warrant might be
bullshit, it might be solid - the article doesn't give us enough info either
way to tell.

"Auernheimer was also arrested in March for giving a false name to law
enforcement officers responding to a parking complaint."

Sad.  The dude may have the intelligence to pull the hack, but not have the
wisdom to not dig a hole deeper. Just man up and take the frikking parking
ticket. ;)






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