On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:42:37 CST, Paul Schmehl said: > You and millions of others love to conflate those issues with warrantless > surveillance of US citizens for the purpose of obtaining evidence in a > criminal > investigation and then scream bloody murder about warrantless surveillance and > intrusions of our rights. OK, so in your opinion we should sit back and accept the legal theory that "I'm the President, and as Commander in Chief I can give orders contrary to the usual 4th Amendment restrictions" (note carefully that there was *NOT* an actual formal declaration of war made - Congress merely authorized the use of force. Many constitutional law experts seem to think this makes a difference). So it is OK if as President, he decides to suspend habeus corpus? If it's *not* OK, how do you intend to complain once your corpus can't be habeased any more? "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" -- Thomas Jefferson. In other words, the time to raise a fuss is *before* they go down the slippery slope, not once they're 3/4 of the way down and in an uncontrolled slide. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." -- Sinclair Lewis, 1935 And that's why we raise a fuss. You may wish to read Naomi Wolf's "Fascist America in 10 easy steps": http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment And that's why we raise a fuss.
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