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Re: [Full-disclosure] (USA) Fighting the tyranny of fusion centers / JTTF harassment and profiling
- To: ask.fd@xxxxxxxxxxxx, full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] (USA) Fighting the tyranny of fusion centers / JTTF harassment and profiling
- From: Rohit Patnaik <quanticle@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:17:20 -0500
ask.fd@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Was wondering what FD's opinions were on fusion centers.
>
> www.aclu.org/fusion
>
> They are essentially COINTELPRO survellience techniques employed by
> the FBI-State-Local police to "gather intelligence" on people.
>
> And yeah, you guys fall into the scope. I was wondering what your
> opinions were on this government surveillance stuff.
>
> Do you have local police (turned domestic intelligence agents) have
> the sophistication and complexity to understand what you do? Or do
> you think you'll end up like Ricardo Calixte, and get raided for
> using Linux. http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/boston-college-
> prompt-commands-are-suspicious
>
> I was wondering what you thought abuse of power by the government.
> And how to stop it.
>
> I think that cryptome and wikileaks is the way to go. If you see
> the government doing something illegal, do you have the right to
> break into their system and uncover the evidence? Google "plain
> sight rule". Sure, if it's not that you'll probably go to jail, but
> if you hit the gold mine of their corruption, you're set.
>
> Freedom of information?
>
> COINTELPRO was owned by citizen's investigation into the FBI. It
> was illegal to search the FBI office. However, it offered a
> sweeping change in legislative policy after, since the evidence
> could be shown in congress.
>
> Where are all the upset feds? Blow the whistle. You can get your
> info out 100% safe, Get TOR (http://www.torproject.org/). Post your
> stories on this list, Wikileaks or Cryptome.
>
> This post was sponsored heavily by n3td3v intelligence
>
> ~~ n3td3v is not antisec. the metasploit method is ineffective.
> ~~ you need to get "the intelligence feed" at
> www.twitter.com/n3td3v.
>
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by the "plain sight rule". As I
understand it, it means that evidence that a police officer sees "in
plain sight" may be acted upon without prior authorization. How does
that apply to me, an ordinary citizen of the USA?
--
Rohit Patnaik
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