Re: [Full-disclosure] FD / lists.grok.org - bad SSL cert

[Tim <tim-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> > How is that better, really?  Run tcpdump or ettercap...  Either of the
> > tools are off the shelf.
> 
> And if the site is using a self-signed cert, how does a 3rd party tcpdump
> manage to get a *decrypted* datastream?  Yes, you can still do traffic 
> analysis
> on the "X talked to Y with packet sizes A, B, and C" level, but you can't
> look at the data.


You're missing the point of my comment:

  Plaintext communication => use tcpdump

  Encrypted without a cert => use ettercap (or something similar)


Is there really a non-constant difference in difficulty?

tim

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