Re: [Full-disclosure] Offensive Security Backtrack Training

[Kern <timetrap@xxxxxxxxx>]

I think "security underground" implies unemployed.

On 3/13/08, atlas <atlas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:44:15 +0000
> > From: "worried security" <worriedsecurity@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > http://www.offensive-security.com/ilt.php
> > >
> >
> > Fuck mutts / backtrack / offensive-security and the remote-exploit IRC
> > channel, they turned their back on the underground to make money.
> >
> > What a dick he is for blantantly making money out of these courses to
> > line his own pocket, what happened to good old teaching people things
> > for the pure enthusiasm of computer security?
> >
> > No, this guy even put banners for this on Securityfocus frontpage, he
> > is truely in it for the money and is up there with the all time great
> > profiteers of Symantec now and doesn't actually care about the
> > underground.
> >
> > I'm as underground a guy and supporter as you get 9 years in the
> > security underground and would never turn my back on it just to line
> > my pocket, so i can buy extra sweeties next time i'm down the candy
> > shop.
>
> Did you just say "security underground"?  What does that even *mean*!?
> Hacking underground... yes, I get that... and it actually means something
> (although likely less and commonly thought).
>
> And so what if the guy makes some cash from training?  Getting paid to
> support
> the habit is generally accepted as a good thing.  I'm glad you feel
> strongly
> about making help and discussion available for free.  Many good things
> have
> come from such ideals... but you sound like RMS of the "underground
> security"
> scene.
>
> </trolling>
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