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Re: [Full-disclosure] Rutkowska faces '100% undetectable malware' challenge, teasing?



The problem is that she wants the money upfront, in order to develop the 100% 
undetectable thing that she doesn't have right now.  So that's a problem.
 

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From: full-disclosure-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Trey Keifer
Sent: Sat 6/30/2007 1:39 PM
To: Bipin Gautam
Cc: full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure]Rutkowska faces '100% undetectable malware' 
challenge, teasing?


Joanna has stated her technical requirements for the challenge and Thom and 
group has accepted them, so why not turn this into what it really is... a bet.

The losing team agrees to pay the other $350,000 - if both groups are really so 
confident there shouldn't be any issue. 




On 6/30/07, Bipin Gautam <gautam.bipin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        hi guys,
        
        ref: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=334
        
        so are they teasing by making her the impossible challenge at this 
date? :)
        
        honeypot developers have been trying to battle the same issue of 
        making the virtual machine emulate guest OS like the it is run in real
        hardware since some years now.
        
        ref: 
http://handlers.sans.org/tliston/ThwartingVMDetection_Liston_Skoudis.pdf 
        
        But if Rutkowska or anyone is able to succeed to make it undetectable
        in current hardware that would be genius!
        
        -bipin
        
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