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Re: [Full-disclosure] complaints about the governemnt spying!
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- Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] complaints about the governemnt spying!
- From: Dave Horsfall <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:12:10 +1100 (EST)
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Stan Bubrouski wrote:
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Jefferson, 1759).
>
> That's actually a Benjamin Franklin quote, which is worded about 1000
> different ways depending on the source.
The above is close; the main points are "essential liberty" and "a little
temporary safety".
In the meantime, perhaps some, umm, US patriot could tell me who authored
these particular aphorisms:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots and tyrants."
"The Tree of Islam has to be watered with the blood of martyrs."
I'm having trouble seeing the difference.
-- Dave, who is not pro-US, so therefore has to be anti-US, according to Shrub
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