Re: [Full-disclosure] Inside AV engines?

["Valdis Shkesters" <valdis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

These days, a very popular approach is to pack malicious codes by
different packers to create a large number of pseudo versions. Tests
performed by Eric Johansen from IBM Virus CERT were presented
at the Virus Bulletin 2005 conference. He had packed the generally
known Nimda.a by different packers and tested what was the possibility
of fooling different anti-viruses. Symantec with its on-demand scanner
identified only 33%, McAfee 67%, Trend Micro 57%.

http://files.malwareblog.com/EJohansen_VB2005_Presentation.pdf
http://files.malwareblog.com/EJohansen_VB2005.pdf

Best regards,

Valdis


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeroen" <jeroen@xxxxxxxx>
To: <pen-test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:56 AM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Inside AV engines?


> For penetration testing on Wintel system, I often use netcat.exe and stuff
> like pwdump. More and more I need to disable anti-virus services before
> running the tools to avoid alarms and auto-deletion of the applications. 
> It
> works but it isn't an ideal situation since theoretically a network can be
> infected while the AV-services are down. Recompiling tools is an option
> since the source of many tools I use is available. The question is (before 
> I
> burn useless CPU cycles): can someone help me getting info about the 
> inside
> of AV engines? Will addition of some rubbish to the code do the trick (->
> other checksum), do I need to change some core code or is it a mission
> impossible anyway? Who can help for example getting some useful research
> papers on the subject of detecting viruses and how to bypass mechanisms
> used? Any help will be appreciated.
>
>
> Greets,
>
> Jeroen
>
>
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