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[Full-disclosure] Re: (ICMP attacks against TCP) (was Re: HPSBUX01137 SSRT5954
- To: Darren Reed <avalon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: (ICMP attacks against TCP) (was Re: HPSBUX01137 SSRT5954
- From: Dana Hudes <dhudes@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:26:38 -0400 (EDT)
you will find a range of MTU sizes in radio links of various sorts which
is not just 802.11 but also cellular including GPRS CDMA and WCDMA.
Now, in many instances there is a proxy between the mobile station and the
public network. In fact I wrote a powerpoint presentation summarizing such
a paper on transparent TCP proxy in WCDMA and its on my site
http://www.networkengineer.biz (I took a course in wireless
architecture).
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Darren Reed wrote:
> In some mail from Fernando Gont, sie said:
> >
> > At 07:25 p.m. 20/07/2005, Darren Reed wrote:
> >
> > >In some mail from Fernando Gont, sie said:
> > > > The IPv4 minimum MTU is 68, and not 576. If you blindly send packets
> > > larger
> > > > than 68 with the DF bit set, in the case there's an intermmediate with
> > > > an
> > > > MTU lower that 576, the connection will stall.
> > >
> > >And I think you can safely say that if you see any packets trying to
> > >indicate that the MTU of a link is "68" then you should ignore it.
> >
> > Yes. But what about 296?
> >
> ...
> > >I think it is reasonable to say anyone trying to advertise an MTU less
> > >than 576 has nefarious purposes in mind.
> >
> > There are still some radio links with MTUs of 296 bytes.
>
> Go search with google....people still actively use smaller MTUs.
>
> What do you do? Where do you draw the line in the sand?
>
> Darren
>
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