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- Subject: [Full-Disclosure] [Fwd: Re: [Cafe_OA] *OT* Leave the bots alone]
- From: Steve Kudlak <chromazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:24:38 -0800
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<td>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:59:22 -0800</td>
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<td>Steve Kudlak <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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Brett Kinsella wrote:
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<pre wrap="">capcartoonist wrote:
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<pre wrap="">*spammy snippage*
I save hundreds of dollars a month because I don't take advice from
jackoffs like you.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->
While insulting the spambots is momentarily satisfying, it's pissing
into the wind. Damn things are So:0
That said, I can't help but notice that Yahoo's once nigh impenetrable
Bayesian filtering isn't what it used to be. Do you think the spammers
are getting smarter or is Yahoo just getting slack?
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People are getting better at writing spam as oif it were a personal
message and<br>
that is hard to deal with. For example I might write a message like:<br>
<br>
Well I rather like Coast Commercial Bank they have great personal
service and<br>
I have actually saved money because they gave me good advice. I might
even as<br>
a short reply say: "Coast Commercials Rates are The Best!" Although
me being<br>
me would usually go on that they seem to treat lots of people as if
they had at least<br>
$100,000.00US on deposit with them. <br>
<br>
So I could see how it would be hard to filter these messages. As a test
I sent this to<br>
my other identity <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:steve.kudlak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>steve.kudlak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
to see if it gets through
our filter, although<br>
I probably should send it where someone else other that "Steve Kudlak"
is the message<br>
sender. Oh well, I'll have to create a fake account somewhere for
testing...<br>
<br>
But I think that is the way Spam is going. They will make it seem like
when you send<br>
email to your friend telling him or her you are having financial
trouble this month and need<br>
a few bucks. I know the Nigerian scamsters actually are often people
with real writing<br>
skills, and these scams attracts bright and literate types to be the
scammers. <br>
<br>
So even though there is no secret cartel called "Intellispam" I can
see it headed in<br>
that direction. Speaking of that there is this guy who published a book
who calls<br>
himself "Spammer X" and they interviewed him on this local radio
program here<br>
called "Geekspeak" on radio station KUSP. I sort of doubted the bona
fides of<br>
Spammer X and think he was pretty much a scammer who knew a few
technical<br>
terms .and pretty much put one over on the publishers. I was going to
call him on it<br>
but having done radiio I took pity on the show's hosts. Having callers
insult and/or<br>
threaten guests is a real pain to deal with when doing a radio show.<br>
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Have Fun,<br>
Sends Steve<br>
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