Re: [Full-Disclosure] Senior M$ member says stop using passwords completely!

[stephane nasdrovisky <stephane.nasdrovisky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Todd Towles wrote:

> I was under the understand that passwords of over 14 characters were
> stored with a more secure hash, therefore 14 characters passwords were
> harder to crack, due to the more secure hash. Windows will create two
> different hashes for passwords shorting than 14 characters, I do
> believe.
>  
If my memory is right, lm passwords are hashed as 2*7 uppercase bytes 
(which is not the same as 14 bytes, it's easier to bf)
If lm passwords are enabled, even longer passwords will collide with a 
14 characters password (as far as you're more interested in accessing 
one's account than knowing its dog's name, i.e. if your pass is "My name 
is bond, james bond!", using "MY NAME IS BON" will give you the access 
you diserve)!
Back in the nt 4.0 time, it was required to disable lm passwords (w95 
compatibility issue) in order to have stronger passwords (if nt password 
fails, lm password is checked).

> Just use a non-printable character in your password and cracking is
> useless...if they crack it, they can't read what they cracked. ;) 
>  

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