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Re: [Full-Disclosure] lame bitching about xpsp2



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I only gave examples in reference to a much bigger picture, and you
only replied to those specifics. In response to your bloviations
though, what if I didn't have ICF enabled because I like using
ZoneAlarm? I think I should have the option of M$ NOT enabling ICF and
NOT breaking ZA. And I may know how to set these things up via CP or
CMD, but my mother doesn't. My sister doesn't. And if M$ overrides some
settings that break their apps, they have no idea what to do! (all my
future referrals will be for Linspire, just to let you know, "Mr.
Windows")<br>
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In a takeoff of your own words ... "sheesh, damned it you use M$"<br>
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Jonathan Rickman wrote:<br>
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  <div>&gt;The problem with M$'s patches/updates/fixes/sp's is that
they assume they know better &gt;than you what the settings should be,
and without asking they override any current &gt;settings.</div>
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  <div>No it doesn't. It mirrored the ICF firewall settings I already
had in place on every machine I put it on...even the custom rules that
allowed local clients to attach to my X server running in cygwin,
bittorrent traffic, and the ssh rules on 3 vmware network adapters.
That's pretty much the definition of retaining current settings.</div>
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  <div>&gt;For example, if they are going to enable the firewall, and
block all incoming ports, give &gt;the knowledgable users the option of
either disabling the firewall, or allowing selected &gt;ports access.<br>
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  <div>You can modify the settings through 2 different interfaces.
Either go to the control panel and set things up the way you want, or
read up on doing it from the command line if that makes you feel
special. </div>
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  <div>Sheesh, talk about "damned if you do...damned if you don't"!!!</div>
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  <div>Jonathan<br>
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