[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Re: [Full-Disclosure] Sasser author
- To: Jeremiah Cornelius <jeremiah@xxxxxxx>, full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Sasser author
- From: Mister Coffee <live4java@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 08:23:34 -0700
<various snippage>
>
> Yes, but is it a crime that should be equated with holding hostages or
> hijacking airliners?
>
Obviously no. Unless the -intent- (which you mention below) was to cause havoc
on the internet.
> There is a bogus category of "electronic terrorism", which is being subject
> to
> the same aggressive prosecutorial standard that is established for those who
> perpetrate real crimes of terror. 18 year-old kids, without /intention/ of
> political or ideological violence against innocents, are being held with the
> legal gravity of weapons smugglers. Intention is a key definition of guilt
> in - at least - British, and US-ian law.
>
Well, we won't go into how skewed some of the sentencing laws are. More time
in jail and bigger fines for trading MP3's than for beating someone up and
stealing their money to buy drugs? Definately messed up.
As for intention . . . the sasser author cann't claim he didn't intend for his
worm to exploit vulnerable systems and spread.
> Here you have a social naive, without any experience in life that connects
> the
> gravity of consequences to his actions. Chances are, his life will be pretty
> much ruined. That is an equitable outcome, because some Systems
> Administrators were given a couple of rough days at work?
>
Socially inept or not, he must have had a good idea of the annoyance his worm
would cause if it worked. As for equitable, let's see. . .
Let's give an example. Someone paints graffiti on the side of my
house/barn/apartment/office/whatever. I could always have the kid imprisoned,
but that wouldn't undo the "damage" his act of vandalism did. So, to make
amends, I give him a bucket of paint and a brush, and have him repaint the wall
back to its original color.
Sounds fair? No jail time. The perp makes amends that are pretty much equal
to the "cost" of thier "crime."
Now, let's extend the analogy. Cleaning up after the worm takes a little time,
so we'll have the worm writter clean up after his infections. At 20 minutes
each. For 5 MILLION (wild assed guesstimate) infected hosts.
Somehow, jailtime doesn't seem right - but it -really- doesn't seem equitable
to let the kid walk. Someone's paying those admins and tech support people to
clean up the mess...
Cheers,
L4J
_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html