RE: [Full-Disclosure] Sasser author

[Bart.Lansing@xxxxxxxxx]

Come on Harlan...

That's just like saying "after al these years of rapes, maybe the victims 
would stop being victimized"...to continue on with Larry's analogy. 

The locked house analogy is fine too...should my locks maybe be better? 
Maybe...but the guy who breaks into my house is the criminal and I am the 
victim.  In fact, even if I don't lock my house, the guy is still a 
criminal. 

The author is wrong, period, he is the one who wrote and released it...

It's one thing to continuously, strenuously, lobby for better 
software...more effective systems management/administration 
policies...better education at the user level...this is a good thing, a 
needful thing.  It is quite another to excuse a criminal of his behaviour. 
 

I may be stupid if I leave my car window down and my laptop on the car 
seat...but you are a thief and a criminal if you steal it.

Bart Lansing
Manager, Desktop Services
Kohl's IT


full-disclosure-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 05/13/2004 10:31:34 AM:

> Come on, Larry...
> 
> The first thing in the MS bulletin about Sasser is
> "enable a firewall"...block the port.  Slammer was the
> same way.
> 
> And yeah, I know about the dial-up and VPN issues, but
> there are designs that protect against infections
> there, was well.
> 
> Perhaps after all these years of publishing "best
> practices", maybe the victims would
> stop...well...being victimized.
> 
> 
> --- Larry Seltzer <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>Sasser violates poorly designed/implemented
> > network infrastructures.
> > 
> > I think we'd better be careful with all this moral
> > equivocating. Some of it's right up
> > there with "she was wearing provocative clothing."
> > It's obvious who the criminal is and
> > who the victim is.
> > 
> > Larry Seltzer
> > eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> > http://security.eweek.com/
> > http://blog.ziffdavis.com/seltzer
> > larryseltzer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > 
> 
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