Re: [Full-Disclosure] Calcuating Loss

[Harlan Carvey <keydet89@xxxxxxxxx>]

Clint...

Two words..."testing process".  What happened to that?
 Don't tell me you're installing patches directly to
production systems...

--- Clint Bodungen <clint@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> How about when Micro$oft releases a bundled patch
> (cough cough MS04-011) to
> fix several bugs and security holes (supposedly to
> help "minimize loss" from
> these bugs and worms) only to find out that the
> patch itself has broken just
> as many services as it fixed, taking down one's
> server for a few hours,
> causing yet... more loss!  ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> > Loss?
> >
> > One of my biggest complaints is the way the
> industry "loses billions"
> > whenever a virus or worm breaks out.
> >
> > I mean, securing and maintain your server is not a
> loss. Installing and
> > updating your anti virus or IDS package is not a
> loss. All of these
> > things should have been done anyway.
> >
> > If a server goes off line, I guess you could
> measure the revenue it may
> > have produced as a loss, but technically, that is
> lack of income, not
> > true loss.
> >
> > If you see someone complaining about all the money
> they lost doing what
> > they should have been doing all along, I just see
> spin. And politics.
> >
> > M
> 
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